SAP buys SuccessFactors – a few random thoughts


I heard the news of SAP buying SuccessFactors while in the cab to PHX airport for a last minute business trip to India. And I am typing this from the plane – the first of four that will take me to Kolkata. On my way back from India, I will get to attend the SAP influencer summit in Boston, MA. And I think I will have to throw away all the questions I had for SAP so far, and ask some on its focus on cloud. Too bad that GoGo internet is not working for me in this flight, else I wanted to contact a few people I trust to get some additional input. I guess I will post this from Denver airport before the next flight takes off.

HCM has historically not been a core focus area for me, and is probably the only part of the core Business Suite modules I have not played with hands-on. But over the last couple of years, HCM has been constantly getting on my radar, and I even put it in my top trends in SAP consulting opportunities for 2012 in my SCN blog.

The first thought that ran through my mind when I heard the news was “The founders of Workday must be partying hard”. I think SAP buying Workday sets them up nicely for bigger valuation. I know the company keeps saying they are not for sale – but then what else do you expect them to say? . Either they will have an extremely good IPO, or they will get acquired at a high premium by another company. May be SFDC will buy them? or Oracle?

SAP’s leadership team has a big job to do now – decide quickly how to integrate this new acquisition into existing architecture, and how to rationalize the portfolio. There are two major considerations in my mind – there is the platform play compared to ByDesign, and there is the solution play compared to CareerOnDemand, Business Suite etc. And of course, I assume Vishal Sikka will want to make this work on HANA, BI 4.0 and SUP too, with probably SUP being the more important one for now. I don’t think ByD or CareerOD will survive due to overlap.

Actually, I think the bigger worry for SAP is ironically their own talent management for cloud. They could not keep Wookey. All that talk about him moving out for family reasons don’t ring true anymore once he joined SFDC. So what about Lars who will come in now – will he stick around long enough? And even more important – what about the excellent team in place now for OD in SAP? Will they stick around long term and re-engineer everything new to whatever is the new platform? Will SuccessFactors team integrate well with legacy SAP? More than anything else – that is what would probably dictate success and failure for SAP in cloud.

Communication to customers and partners is key. This is where I think SAP needs the most focus in short term. They need to figure out their roadmap at the earliest, and start talking to customers and others in the ecosystem. After the experience with BOBJ and Sybase, I think SAP would know how to do this effectively. I did like one thing – I saw plenty of tweets from existing cloud team at SAP saying they are thrilled. I am looking forward to talking to them soon to get some details.

What about customers? I am going to India now for some customer meetings. I do intend to ask them what they feel about SAP’s cloud strategy now. In my opinion, customers of SFSF should expect SAP reps opening up many opportunities to buy more solutions. I am not equally sure of the converse. Existing SAP customers I guess will be in a “wait and watch” mode. SFSF reps might offer better deals now to close out – but I am in two minds on whether this is good or bad to jump into. And the reason is – I don’t know what SAP will do in terms of rationalization. Once we know the roadmap more clearly, I do expect SAP to have big time cross selling opportunities, and customers to have many solutions from one shop.

Bundled sales is the name of the game for SAP to get to the 20B plan for 2015. So far, Bill McDermott has been extremely bullish on pipeline for HANA, mobility and now also on SFSF. If that holds – I expect him to up his plans to something more than 20B, and even declare a bigger EPS plan for 2015. 2012 will be a very interesting year in SAP land. Can’t wait to see what else will happen. Parting thought – will there be few more M&A deals in 2011 in Enterprise Software? I guess there will be.

Is “Pursuit of Profits” the killer of Innovation and the U.S. Economy? hmmm..I don’t think so


I saw this today morning on twitter via Frank Scavo

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/18/clayton-christensen-how-pursuit-of-profits-kills-innovation-and-the-us-economy/

It is an article on Forbes.com by Steve Denning, based on a talk at the Gartner Symposium ITExpo 2011 on October 16-20, 2011, given by Clayton Christensen.

While I have a lot of respect for Christensen, I don’t think all the arguments made forth in the article are reasonable. I do think some of them have social merit, although I doubt they make economic sense. Here are my thoughts for what it is worth. Of course, this is just my personal view, not that of my employer.

The Dell Example

So Dell did outsource most of what it does, and it does not look smart anymore. Makes perfect sense to me – but, that does not prove everyone who outsourced got burned.

The icon for American innovation -Apple – heavily depends on Foxconn in China for the profit margins of iPads. Does that make people say Apple is less innovative ? If Apple moved manufacturing jobs to US, it probably will lose a third of its profits (I guess..have not researched ). So it might not make direct sense economically, but definitely makes sense socially leading to indirect gains on economy too. Many more Americans will get jobs, but then either Apple will have less returns for its investors, or iPads will cost more – thereby reducing its appeal somewhat.

Dell and Apple are at 2 extremes probably. All I am saying is that for every extreme example used to make a point, there is almost always an extreme counter example.

There is one point I fully agree – if you outsource your core competence (assuming you can even define what it is in the first place), you have just booked your ticket to a chapter in the history books. Apple still keeps design in US so far from what I understand, and it helps them be in control. If Macro-economic conditions favor them, they could very well bring the jobs from China back to the US.

Business schools are to blame, but only in part

It is not the first time B schools get beaten up for everything that is wrong, and some of it is absolutely well deserved. But I don’t think B schools should be beaten up for teaching that profitability is a good thing, and that it is the ultimate goal of a business. Also, I don’t think anyone makes investment decisions based on any one ratio like IRR or RONA or any other ratio for that matter. B schools do teach that trusting any one ratio without context is a terrible way to make a decision – at least the one I went to did. Decisions are made by looking at a bunch of ratios in relation to each other, and then by absolute numbers and comparison to benchmarks, and finally by the experience and judgment of managers. In real life, it would take forever to make decisions without some help from ratios.

Where I agree wholeheartedly is that some financial analysts dumb down these ratios to compare companies which have no similarity. That is not the fault entirely of business schools – it can be argued that it is the fault of the business itself. Business Schools just ape what seems to be SOP for business. Over time this is a chicken and egg problem – trying to figure out if academia started it or some one in the street started it. In short – B Schools at best should only be blamed for some part of the problem.

The case of Fabless companies – did they really miss the point?

From the late seventies / early eighties when fabless started to today, that industry moved from just about a million dollars between 3 companies to the top 3 companies ( Qualcomm, Broadcom etc) making about 15 Billion dollars or so today, and growing steadily. These companies do the design and then trusts contract manufacturers to build. The one company that does all manufacturing by itself – Intel, is also now going after the business of letting other companies use its terrific foundries. And where does Intel do all its manufacturing – is it in US? Nope. Semiconductors are very cyclical, and innovation typically outpaces the ability to keep up investment in fabs to match it. So there is a higher threshold for entry into this field. As long as design capabilities ( design in/ design win) remain in US, why would US lose out?

As things get to a stage in maturity curve when the manufacturing process is fairly repeatable, I would argue it continues to make sense to outsource the repeatable process. The innovative part – the brains which do design – are the ones that should not be outsourced. The resources saved by outsourcing can then be utilized for the next round of innovations. There is only so much investment to go around – just as we did not hold tight to horse buggies when it became possible to mass produce cars, we should not hold on to the past just to be extremely risk averse. if we do so – then we will not be able to invest in further innovation.

There is an angle of incremental innovation vs disruptive innovation that should be considered. Outsourcing can probably hurt the incremental innovation side quite a bit. However, if the money saved by outsourcing is reinvested partly to R&D for disruptive innovation – can’t it be argued that it more than makes up for the opportunity cost?

Cost accounting surely needs to evolve

I readily agree here. We have to understand that the world is not static, and there are always new types of costs that need to be addressed. But this is also subject to interpretation to a large extent – it is a best guess to compare opportunity cost of “lost knowledge due to outsourcing” to “investment in new innovation”. The reason is that in both cases – it is only after the fact that we can see what the benefits truly are. So this is not a concrete argument, although it has some merit.

Customer delight vs Profitability

This is where I have the biggest disagreement. If the end result is customer delight, and profitability is not an objective – why is Apple not selling iPads for $50 or for cost or free even? Obviously customers will be delighted if the price is lower with the same set of features, right? The reason is simple – the company that is not profitable cannot invest in innovation, or reward its employees enough to delight the customers on a sustainable basis. Customer delight is a great means to an end – not an end in itself.

In every case, customer is not the king. When something new comes into the market that customers like, sellers are the kings. Semiconductor industry is an excellent example – they ran on quota basis for a while, but cannot do so for the last few years. Once competition starts heating up, sellers cannot take the same attitude – and slowly make customer the king, and try to delight them. But seller’s motivation is always to make the next thing that makes them king, and ride the next wave. If you just try to ride any one wave for long – you risk the chance of booking the history chapter ticket. IBM and Apple and many others have proven this already in history.

What is killing the US economy and Innovation then?

In my un-researched opinion, it is due to multiple factors – which need comprehensive long term policy changes . Education is one area that I think where US needs to concentrate the most. Without Science, Math, Design skills etc being encouraged big time – it will be hard to remain competitive over time. Immigration is another – why wouldn’t US want to keep the large chunk of students who come here for higher studies, instead of making it difficult for them to get visas and permanent residence? And about taxes – why would we not have tax laws that make it attractive for US companies to bring back money home from abroad?

This country has solved some of the biggest problems that mankind ever faced. I would think these problems we face today on the economy can be solved too with our collective will – if only people can let go of the left/right type thought process and other petty differences and instead look at the problems with the sole objective of solving them.

Highlight of Madrid SAPPHIRENOW 2011 – meetings with Snabe and Sikka


I am sitting in the flight back home from Madrid, and reflecting on what were the most interesting highlights of the week I spent in Madrid. I am pretty convinced it is the meetings I had with Vishal Sikka and Jim Snabe. Parts of the meeting are under NDA, so I cannot discuss it here.  But that is not the point – despite some execution issues which SAP faces in my opinion, I think the leadership of people like Vishal and Jim is pretty critical for SAP to get their strategy to action.

Vishal is not a large company CTO type – he has the energy and passion of a start up guy. This is a guy who shuttles around the world talking to different teams at SAP, and directly engaging with Customers on a regular basis.When I met him in Madrid, he said he is there only for 20 hours or so. And then in a couple of days, he had to go to China for Teched keynote. And once he started talking – he was like the “energizer bunny”.  I truly wish I had that kind of energy, and I don’t know how his team deals with that 🙂

He does not hold back – he is candid to a fault, and it has been a big learning opportunity for me whenever I get to meet and talk with him. I do not agree with some of his ideas, and I do agree with some. But irrespective of my POV, I always admire the honesty in his position. There is no sugar coating – what you see is what you get.  But then again, it is not just his personality alone that makes him successful – he hired some really good people to work for him, especially on HANA.  Where I think he could do better is to get SAP’s development army to keep pace with him.

I also had the good fortune to meet Jim Snabe twice – once for dinner (here is a photo http://img.ly/afEe ) with few other bloggers, and once again the next day with fellow SAP mentors.  I was quite impressed with how much he listens to feedback, and then builds up on those ideas.  He is one of the most balanced C level executives that I have ever met, although I am forming my opinion after knowing  him only for a short period. Jim does not challenge people per se – he challenges ideas with open ended questions.  And when he explains the rationale – it is very structured, and you can immediately make out that he did not just make something up on the fly. He can also relate to the history of SAP better than most other SAP leaders , which is a unique characteristic which is quite valuable.  And he acknowledges and thanks people when something comes from the other side of the table, that he has not thought through himself.  Last but not least – If I were in Jim’s shoes, I doubt if I would have gone out for dinner with a bunch of bloggers the night before SAPPHIRE keynote 🙂

Unlike Vishal, Jim grew up in SAP. But despite the difference in their backgrounds, I was quite pleased with how they could both explain SAP’s value proposition and future clearly, albeit in 2 rather different ways.  Same destination – just two different roads.  Having also watched Bill McDermott in action, it is kind of interesting that the three top leaders at SAP all bring unique, but complimentary value to the table.

I am looking forward to meeting both these gentlemen in future, and continuing the great conversation.